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Why Next-Gen Sonic games are failing the franchise

Posted by AshtonNextGen - July 21st, 2007


I've been playing Next-Gen Sonic games recently and its just hit me?
Whatever happened to Sonic and Tails?
Seriously, Sonic's changed So much lately he's span too far away from what the franchise used to be about!
They keep bringing out all these new characters, Silver the Hedgehog, Princess Elise, Sahara, Chris Thorndyke, they aren't gonna mean anything come next generation!
Seriously Sonic needs to step back in time to when his games really meant something 'cus its turning into a joke now!
Whatever happened to a time when it was just Sonic, Tails and Knuckles? Sonic vs Eggman? (Do we even need Shadow?) ...(Nah I was just kidding about Shadow)
But I mean, what's with Sonic going solo with all these new random characters all the time for?
Sonic and Sahara? Sonic and Princess Elise? And whys Sonic spending SO much time with Christopher Thorndyke for!?! Heck, reject your friends why dont'cha!
There was only like ONE SINGLE EPISODE in the entire 78 episode series of Sonic X where Sonic actually spent some quality time with Tails and that was Ep. 34, even when Sonic and the gang all got to go back to their own Planet that spoilt kid had to follow!
Man, if I was Tails I would be so envious at Chris, "GIVE ME MY FRIEND BACK!! Just because we visited your world means you can keep Sonic all to yourself!? I don't think so!"

Ok so not all new Sonic characters are so bad, we had a few good runs with Blaze the Cat, Black Doom and even Mephilis (despite the fact his voice is less creepier than shadows himself) and yeah characters like Cream the Rabbit and E123 Omega managed to establish themselves, but man, enough is enough!
Why can't we go back to the good days like Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes or even Sonic R had just about enough going for it!
I mean, last time I checked Sonic was about fast, talking animals who battled hard to stop a mad scientist from trying to enslave them into robots and dominate their planet! (Though in the Japanese version, Sonic is from Earth all along, just a magical hidden far away land called Christmas Island where all the animals could talk, P.S. that would explain why Eggman's still human!)

Its really no wonder so many people hate Sonic when in comparison with Mario, no one knows what its about anymore!
If they all took the time to play Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Sonic CD, Sonic Adventure 2, or at least the Sonic Advance games then they would all see why he was so well loved in the first place, but why should they?
Why can't Sonic Team keep making great games like that!?
Its no wonder Sonic's failing so badly, they've become so far up their own ass they now only seem to make the games how they want it, not how its dedicated fans see it!
Remember how you all first felt when Sonic Next-Gen was first announced?
Day to Night cycle? Upgradeable abilities? A more established Super Sonic? Sonic actually being fast?
Now remember how you then felt when you played the final game!
Ooh, That's a sharp kick in the nuts for ya, huh?

Now I'm not saying that this all down to the voice actors at 4kids, I happen to know a few of them and I really wish people would stop pushing all the blame towards them.
I know the Japanese cast were a lot more fortunate than the American team but in the VO business you need to learn, nothing can always go the way you see it, actors eventually die or quit, it happens!
Budget cuts were the main reason Sonic Team had to drop all their previous actors, it had nothing to do with the popularity of Sonic X, Do you think they would drop such talented actors just to impress such a small majority of new Sonic fans?
No, they hired up 4kids because they couldn't afford to keep the older actors.
See in the gaming business, if your games don't sell, you have to make budget cuts or you cant afford to keep the genre going, you lose out, live and learn, its all about appeal, your games don't appeal to the crowd, no one will be interested, your games wont make you enough money, your in dept to the companies you loaned from, BANG, your big dream is finished!

But back to my topic, people should really stop telling Jason Griffith that Ryan Drummond had more talent or Mike Pollock that Deem Bristow had more enthusiasm, ITS NOT ABOUT THEM! Have you ever watched the Sonic Movie? - Now THAT was bad voice acting!
The games are bad because they're always aiming towards empty promises and places that just don't work for Sonic!
Do you all even know what Sonic means?
It means faster than the speed of sound, that's what Sonic is! But how can Sonic be expected to run so fast with all these shattered obstacles surrounding him like broken glass?
Do any of you even know why Sonics blue and white?
Its because of Sega's logo, he's Sega's mascot, rival to Mario, Nintendo's mascot, and its high time he started acting like it!
If I was running Sonic Team, I'd be doing things differently, I wouldn't let this happen, I'd MAKE SURE Sonic stays on track! I'd make sure to listen to what the fans want and not what my balls want when I'm sitting on the toilet! >:(

Now a lot of friends in and out of MySpace keep suggesting that I should be running Sonic Team (smug, lol) but the fact is, why should I? Why shouldn't they be able to run their own company?
I have my own franchise, I have Katherine and Hippoloid, they're the ones who have Sonic, they should be keeping him on track!
Yuji Naka should give up his stupid hopes for his 'PROPE' company and get back to Sonic Team and straighten his boys all back into shape!
If he doesn't, or if they can't sort themselves out, you know what will become of Sonic, don't you!

Why Next-Gen Sonic games are failing the franchise


Comments

Well there's no way in hell I'm gonna read all that..

So like, why the fuck did you just dump this comment on me dude?

You know, what you're saying actually makes a lot of sense! The old Sonic games had a distinctive style to them and now they're just like any other platformer out there. Sega really made a mess when they gave Shadow a freaking gun...

It's obvious that Sega, like many other companies, have abandonned the art aspect of game design and are now only in it for the money, and I know from experience that when you're making something and your heart isn't in it, it turns out to be as boring and hollow as Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog.

I know, they've let down So many people over the years its tragic, I guess I just wanna go back in time really? to like, when it was just Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Eggman! (Do we even need Amy?)
I was Watching the Sonic movie earlier on and it just hit me, y'know THEIR version of Sonic (the japanese version) is a lot like Astro Boy, instead of Sonic living on a planet filled with talking animals and an evil tyrrant called Dr. Robotnik who wants to rule over them with 'taxes' and 'his way of order' (im just thinkin SATam) the japanese version say that Sonic IS actually from Planet Earth, only its in the future where animals live civiliantly with humans, (that would primarily explain why Eggmans the only main Human in the Sonic genre)

But we never really gave this version a try, experienced it long enough, we all blindly followed the Americans version of that 'Sonic is from Planet Mobious' and lives in a small woodland villaige with Princess Sally Acorn when REALLY, Sonic's japanese, no matter what they all say, Sonic's still a japanese creation, I just find it hard to play the old genisis Sonic games, trying to picturise the green hill zone as a part of earth in the year 3000!

Sorry, what im getting at is, because Sonic's span SO far away from its roots, people tend to easily forget what its really about!
I know the Sonic movie was crap but they had somethin there - ignore the crappy voice acting and the cheap lazy animation and you get what Sonics REALLY about!
The adventures of Sonic, tails, Knuckles & Eggman! (in futuristic Astro boy type scenery) - NO ONE ELSE!!!! N O O N E E L S E ! ! !

(Damn and after I said that they just released another freakin character for Sonic Rush Adventure!) - Sonic team are reading this and mocking me! >:(

Yeah, I agree with you. >_>
I remember the good old sonic games. SA2 was the start of a downward spiral for me. Sega should bring back the old days without all of these random crap characters. >_>

They just DON'T CARE Anymore, they seriously Don't!
I'm looking at new Sonic games coming out for 2008 and theres STILL new Characters being made!
BTW I just gotta stop you for one second, its SONIC TEAM, not SEGA, Sonic team make all the problems, Sega just publishes them worldwide!

I have to go with sparx sega/ sonic team really just dont give a shit any more its all about the money and this prob has also affected other new games by sega besodes the Sonic franchise, the big one that pisses me of is PSU the day the game came out it was just 1 step above the beta (yet sega already had the content) and the game didnt release a single update for 2 months i mean here i am i just spent 60 on the game im spending 10 each month for the online and all i get is a shit ofline mode and online we only have 8 playable missions that my friends is just highway robery! (i do realize i was compleatly off topic but i wanted 2 prove my point about sega/sonic team being about as lazy and cheap as Jaba the Hut!)

Don't worry about it, i got your solution right here!
Play the PSU demo instead of the actual games online mode!
I'll tell you why, becuse its a free trial subscription, more people actually play the demo than the online game, i mean, why pay £12 a month (constant months, thats gonna really eat up for pocket for nothing!) when more and more people everyday are playing the demo for free!
I know you dont get the full game in the demo (well you get most of the game, 3 out of 4 worlds) and you lose your character at the end of the month but really whats better, starting a fresh character or two every month or constantly paying just to keep your own chacacter going?

Play Sonic And The Secret Rings. Just Sonic and speed, the way it was supposed to be from the first game.

'Sides that, Sonic X isn't meant to be very close to the series. I don't even watch it and I know that. Sonic '06 though was okay, too many characters. Silver was a good character I thought, but I know a lot of people hate him, so they should probably just let him, Omega and Cream fade away.

The reason they have so many friggin' characters is because they NEED them to start a plot for one game. What they should do is introduce them, see fan's reaction, and just let them fade away too.

All in all, I think Sonic And The Secret Rings has got it right so far. Sonic with camos is all we really need.

I actually like Secret of the rings but your kinda on and off topic in so many ways here im gonna have to re-ride your comment!
Sonic X was actually based of the direct Sonic Series, like the Sonic movie they made sure to keep the series tied in and out of the game (expect for after episode 52 of course) but saying that you probably watched the 4Kids version and left the room in a hurry, its the JAPANESE version that tied into the game, the japanese got it right!

But yeah like you said with the characters, they shoulda quit while they were ahead, Im still up this very day not sure which game came first, Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic Rush, all I know is After Black Doom they shoulda stopped making new characteres and better establish the ones they had!
As if America didn't complicate things enough with their Archie Sonic Series!

hey that was your opinion we all have diffrent opinion

also love the pic

Maybe, but know that I have been following Sonic since the Very Beggining.
You can't trade Knowledge for Life Long Experience dude, when you grow up with something thoughout your entire life you want to ensure it suceeds, because when it starts to fail, you begin to feel faliure alongside it!

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