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AshtonNextGen
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The Crimson Emo @AshtonNextGen

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The True Reason Sonic's gone downhill!

Posted by AshtonNextGen - November 26th, 2007


I've managed to Pin point the exact Date of when Sonic's career went downhill!
This was all in the matter of when the Sega Dreamcast went bankrupt!

When Sega went down, they dragged Sonic Team down with them!
Sonic Adventure 2 was set to be Sonic's greatest video game ever made, they spent So long working on it to perfection, making so many deals with record companies and soap shoes and stuff, working hard to make this the greatest ever Sonic game!

They thought their efforts would be greatly paid off, but unfortunatly they couldn't have released the game at a worse time!
Because it was at that VERY TIME that the Sega Dreamcast was dying out! That means even though they worked so hard on the game, it could only appeal to a certain number of audiences, die hard Sega fans! No one else would be willing to play in it, or invest in a clearly dying console, this really put Sonic Team back because they could have really made a lot of money out of the game, if only more people would have been more interested in it!
Its simply a matter of good gaming, bad timing because if they hadn't bothered to make Sonic Shuffle and went straight to work on Sonic Adventure 2 after the previous one was finished, they might have had more of a chance to appeal to a bigger audience, despite how wrong it is to rush a games development!
Same deal with Conkers bad fur day really, the best game on the n64, took so long to make the n64 died out before it was released!

But back to my point, Because of this loss of finance, Sonic Team has been struggling to meet ends meet every game afterwards, even re-releasing the game for the Nintendo Gamecube wasn't enough because when Sega moved to Nintendo, again it was a bad market as Nintendo fans didn't want Sonic on their territory, and Sonic fans wern't willing to purchase the same game twice, just to support Sonic Team!

This is the very reason every Sonic game after Sonic Adventure 2 has become minorly successful and also the very reason as to the loss of the popular voice cast to the very unpopular 4kids talent agency!
But I've explained this many times before in the past that the reason for the voice over change was because of budget cuts! Sonic Team had some of the most highly recognised and talented actors in the VO business, they wouldn't replace them merely to appeal to a small majority of Sonic X fans, that fan base doesn't overwhelm the profits made from the games and never did!

Anyway putting that aside, this is the reason to all of Sonic Teams past failures and the reason Sonic is now selling himself out to be whored freely by Nintendo!
Sega's failure dragged Sonic Team with them, despite the fact they are both separate departments!

The True Reason Sonic's gone downhill!


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I honestly think sonic has A chance to make A comeback. almost none of his GBA and D.S games were bad most of them were good. and most of his 3-d games wernt to bad. some were good. like sonic adventure 1 and 2. and sonic heros...well it was ok anyways. games like shadow the hedgehog and sonic riders < even if they wernt to bad of games> really dragged sonic down. but if sonic starts going into gameswith mario <like the olimpic game> he may become cool aand fun again. till then we can only hope. also jason griffen scuks at voiceing sonic. I WANT RYAN DRUMMIN BACK!

I Know but your missing the point entirely!
Its not just about the few numbers of Sonic fans who love Sonic's games, I do too!
Its about the Bigger audience who don't love the games that are the problem, because Sonic's failing to reach the wider audience, the company is failing to make ends meet and pretty soon won't have any money left to throw!
The gaming world is a dominating bussiness, if your games can't appeal to as many gamers as possible, you lose out on profit, then you have huge depts to pay off and that really creates a struggle for the next game you try to release as the financial loss limits you to compete with other companies, meaning you will only continute to lose out untill you can't afford to keep the company going any longer!

Its the Cycle of Life, Dude! Money isn't infinate!

What kills me inside is that its like cancer, there is a very slim chance of recovery from financial loss This Big!
People keep often going on Ryan Drummonds site, "Oh ryan are you going to be in the next sonic game?", "Oh ryan I can't wait for you to be the voice of sonic again!"
they just don't realise its never going to happen, the way things are going, sonics only going to continute going downhill until he hits rock bottom and Thats It! ...No more!
Sonic team of japan have a little bit more money left so if sonic ever did die out in america and the rest of the world, at least japan would have a tiny amount of money left for one final sonic game!

(God look at me, Im sounding as if Im preparing a speech to evacuate a zombie enfested city!)

But this isn't far off from the truth, in fact Sonic Team are releasing a Sonic game exclusive to japan right now called Sega Splash! Golf!

Though I admire Every Sonic fans enthusiam and commitment, the very fact is, if Sonic continues to carry on the way he is going, pretty soon there isn't going to be enough money left to cover up so many past failures, ...that'll be it, No more! The company will shut down, the staff will have to find work elsewhere, the dream will be over...!

Even now your all still in denial as Sonic's such a huge gaming icon but the very fact is, Am I wrong? Has this not hapened before with other franchises?
Mistakes can be fatal, and I worry that Sonic may not have many left to risk...

Sonic went downhill because they made a TV show about it. And they made 3D games.

If they had just stuck with the good old 2D sidescrollers, sonic would be at his height right now.

I personally don't think the TV show's had any individual effect on Sonic's career, just as much as the comic's and spin-off games did.
Though Im not disagreeing with you that the original Sonic games were a sucess, I still gotta defend the cartoon series, even though 3/5 of them drifted far beyond Sonic's original plot they still gave each character more depth and emotion, such as the bond between Sonic & Tails for example.

Its just like saying Batman was a failure because of the 'Batman of the future' cartoon series or Spider-man was a failure because of the 'Ultimate Spider-man' series, they don't really have an impact on the franchise unless you take them too seriously!

(P.S. I wouldn't pay attention to Anything you read about in the Sonic comic's, they were WAY off! ...I was reffering to fleetway btw, but Archie comics were just as bad, we all know Shadow the hedgehog was created by professor Gerald, not some freakin elderly echidna called Doctor Zanchary!)

There is always a light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure that Sonic will find his way.

I sure hope So, though I can only place all my belieifs into logic, not hope.
I need real evidence of Sonic Teams financial comprasition so I can be personally assured the company will be in safe hands.

Basically, Sonic Team need to put their money where their mouth is!

Right on, brother! Preach on! Lol! I have been a fan of both Nintendo & Sega Mascots for over TWO DECADES! I've been playing Video games across the platforms since Atari was the hottest thing to hit America! I really appreciated the tactical breakdown (dissertation), that was presented here! As they say, "It's all about the presentation!" I don't know who the hell "They" are, but I wish they would go find a hole & play hide & go screw themselves! Anyways, all useless rants aside, if you recall Sega Corp. has been ever battling the other platforms since it's biggest rival Nintendo came at them with their 8 bit platform & a landslide of games in the early 80's! In my opinion, the Sega Master System had better graphics than the original Nes! But Nintendo had them beat with all of their 3rd Party Developers! Not to mention, a more lucrative financial backing! So it was only a matter of time that Sega (& poor Sonic) would come to realize their fate! But look at it this way, beyond the fact that it devastated an entire workforce of designers, developers & workers... Even though probably thousands of asian families became homeless overnight... Just try to remember the joy that we had playing those wonderful "Carts", back in the day! I hope you enjoyed my thoughts on the matter, & you can get back to me if you like!

Thank goodness for xbox live and wii arcade, huh? =D

damn i feel sorry for sonic if their gone forever (on sega) R.I.P guy`s you`ve been a great inspiration for me

Uhh, Sonic isn't even Sega's mascot anymore!
When they gave up on the console business, they gave up on the franchise as well, now Sonic's just a video game character and nothing more!
How the mighty have fallen, ...but he will always remain beyond greatness in our hearts!

GRRR DAMN YOU 4KIDS WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE EVERYTHING SUCK!!!!!

Yeah... They did do a pretty impressive job in Sonic riders: zero gravity though, but I agree, they wern't really helping Sonic though his darkest moments!

...so in your opinion Sonic went down hill when Sega went bankrupt due to the Dreamcast...Everyone knows that, it is not some hidden secret, when Sega went bankrupt they gave up thier character for use in other things that were his downfall...though I still like to think there is a little Sonic left to one day come back, after all I was born close to when Sonic was first made so I feel like there is a connection there.

Sonic 3 and Knuckles was the best sonic game in my opinion, though the best of sonic has to be Sonic The comic, the original issues before aliens etc. came.

Me too =) Fact we even share the same Birthweek!
And I used to love Sonic the Comic, shame it got cancelled when archie comics is still going!
Nah Sonic the comic got it best, none of that stupid beano/dandy humour, just good old fashion hardcore novels!
lol I used to remember begging my dad every fortnight in Tescos for it when I was a kid, they cost So much! <=0

they may have went downhill for sega but there is hope for them for nintendo! i sega`s working with nintendo things might go smoother i wish the best of luck for both companies!

Yeah, I was nervous about Sonic in brawl at first but it's actually turning out to be a pretty good idea after all! fact sonic must be in about 9 games for the wii now with 2 more for the future this year! =)
God I wish I hadn't wasted my time with that god awful 360!

sonic team made some good characters..

im not saying they are done for i mean sonic teams made good characters

sonic,shadow silver you guy`s will be great rivals for my character
knuckles try not to get fooled too much by eggman!
tails i hope you keep helping everyone
rouge stop trying to seduce everyone dammit!
amy..i`ll always love you no matter what
tikal keep helping knuckles guard the master emerald
cream never give up keep helping sonic and the others
eggman i hope sonic destroy`s your plans every time
metal sonic..i`ll hate you no matter what!
chaos remember who your friends are
silver if the future is ever screwed up sonic can count on you just try not to jump to conclusions like you did with sonic!
blaze remember you can count on your friends as well
omega remember you can be the best robot fighter if you put your mind to it and belive in yourself and others!
maria remember shadow loves you and always will
espio you are a brilliant ninja just remember to fight with honor
charmey try to stop getting excited all the time before vector kills you!
vector rock on dude rock on
vanilla give cream all the support you can

these are all old sonic characters

sally acorn i hope you one day rule mobius and help it for a better future
bunnie rabot remember to keep helping sonic and the others
antonion try not to get too stubborn!
rotor one day your mechanics may surpass tails

lol you seem to be in all my posts huh? haha, besides I think Sonic and metal are friends now after sonic heroes? I mean, you do see a lot of friendly competition in Sonic rivals and maybe secret rings ...its them damn shadow androids I don't trust!

Funny story about Mobius, if I told you, you may not like it anymore?
You might have seen my previous post right? About sonic originaly being from australia, well anywah when Yuji Naka announced sonic the hedgehig for the mega drive/genisis he meantioned something of a 'mobius' sonic would travel around in and explore, some reporters obviously got this mixed up and thought sonics homeworld was actually the planet mobius when really what Yuji Naka meant was that the labrinth zone from sonic the hedgehog was based on a japanese sewer system (known as a mobius)

So basically everyone in america thinks sonic's homeworld is named a japanese sewer all because of one reporters mistake! lol
nah, acording from japan, sonic's always been on earth all along, the old sonic games were set in australia, then the more modern sonic games moved down to san fransisco in 96 (because thats where sonic teams HQ is) and station sq is actually based on new york city!
don't worry about sonic X though, they used that whole planet warp chaos control thing to appeal to american audiences! ^^

really? i thought metal was evil for good OH now i remember! at the end of sonic heroes omega and shadow must have reprogramed him thanks about the info

They say that Metal Sonic is the most evil character in the series, but I personally think he's just misunderstood.
Now Black Doom, Their is your true dark Overlord!
(And I personally wouldn't wanna get too close to iblis and mephilis either!)